Out of Control Tour '84

updated June 2021 added pass

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The Clash - Interview on the tour bus in Toronto

...on the ticket stub on the site it says the gig's presented by "Chum & Chum FM" -- they're both radio stations and are part of the company that owns the music channel here in Canada.

The TV station was known to tape gigs (or least parts of them) and also interviewed the band as they rolled into Toronto. It's entirely possible that the channel and/or the radio recorded the show and have it stored somewhere in their archives. I've tried asking before, but they say they can't release that information...

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from Ivor Levene's Blog
including backstage interview

Review of Toronto Show
By Wilder Penfield III - May 1984

The latest edition of The Clash gets an A for effort. And last night at the Gardens they made other ratings seem irrelevent. If there was less of a sense of expectation then at the Grandstand summer before last (and at 9,000 this time, less than half the turnout,) this could have something to do with the lack of new music since, and the question mark of three new members.

The question mark can now be eliminaled. Recently enlisted guitarists Nick Sheppard and Vince White have added a touch rockabilly resilience to the band's hard drive. And drummer Peter Howard has helped wind the team as taut as they have ever been.

Or maybe it just seemed that way because singer Joe Strummer once again appeared to have something to prove last night.

Strummer and bassist Paul Simonon are the only holdovers from the original 1976 London line-up. And without recently-departed guitarist Mick Jones, they appear to have rediscovered their focus.

For better or for worse they didn't take the easy way out. No dramatic changes of pace were in evidence. They played everything an old-Clash fan would want to hear, and they did so in ways that should make for new ones.

As a result, these punk pioneers seem to have more going for them now than when they started.

Initially, what Strummer wanted to prove was that he can be as provocative (disagreeable) as ever. "Are there any great groups in this city?" he demanded. And when there didn't seem to be any unanimity in the response (despite the musically and politically acceptable opening-act example of Messenjah) he announced that our PR was bad.

Welcome, Joe, to a city which, like London, is too rich to afford an automatic reaction to that question.

Then, after introducing the bandmembers, he said. "My name is Pierre Trudea, are you ready for war? "

This from band whose authorized introduction addressed to "flat-toppers," "pill-poppers," and other presumably disaffected members of their presumed peer group -- was: "If you want to be out of control, now is the time!"

What redeemed the concert was not their ersatz integrity but their real (-istic) intensity.

Gone were the photos of undernourished third-world children. In their place were a dozen standard-sized color TVs, flickering rhythmically.(Surely they weren't showing videos!) Aside trom that, the show's only bright color, this was your basic white working class rock band, on your basic black industrial set, in your basic black (and white) garb, sponsoring the white side of your basic black-and-white issues.

But their power -- and also my principal objection to it -- is in the blinkers they sport so bravely.

I doubt they accomplished anything new last night, for unfamiliar lyrics were also inaudible, but I think this was the band they wanted to be when they introduced themselves at the Rex Theatre five years ago. Maybe it was enough that we rediscovered their commitment, and can look forward to deciphering the content when they finally release another album.

Any bets they at least don't tell us they want us to dance?

from Ivor Levene's Blog
including backstage interview

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Cartman68 - 12 Apr 2020, 16:49  User
Great show, though not as good as the CNE show in '82. onlyRNRilikeit

  • No known audio or video
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    There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.

    from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)

    from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
    ... both have lists of people who say they went

    & from the newer Concert Database

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    Band is back after strife, inactivity
    The Orlando Sentinel - Thu Mar 29 1984

    Review of Toronto Show
    By Wilder Penfield III - May 1984
    The latest edition of The Clash gets an A for effort...

    Ivor Levene Blog
    including backstage interview
    or archived PDF

    After The Clash, The Clash goes on
    The Globe and Mail - Saturday 28th April

    The Clash: Rock visionaries are back
    The Gazette - Thu Apr 19 1984

    The Clash: Playing rock and roll stronger than ever
    Edmonton Journal - Thu May 3 1984

    Clash still driving home its political messages
    Red Deer Advocate - Sat May 12 1984

    The Clash: Political rock
    The Star - Fri May 4 1984

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    The Clash - Toronto Bus Interview April 1984

    Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?

    This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.

    In the second part of the interview, recorded in the beginning of 1984, Strummer sounds melancholy and exhausted. However, with the departure of Mick Jones from The Clash being old news by this point, Lisa Robinson is able to steer the questioning towards what Strummer makes of performing, success, and his music.

    Part 1
    00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
    01:15 Bitterness
    01:56 Success vs. personal problems
    02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
    03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
    06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
    07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
    07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
    08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
    10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
    11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
    11:39 Hoping to be possessed
    12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
    14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
    14:55 Pete Howard on drums
    15:07 Recording a new album
    15:49 The US Festival
    16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
    18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response

    Part 2
    00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
    00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
    01:57 A feeling of homelessness
    02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
    02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
    03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
    04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
    05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
    07:13 The ideal performing situation
    07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
    08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
    09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
    10:48 [A false start]
    11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
    12:11 Musical influences
    12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
    15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.

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