updated 4 Aug 2014 - Full audio review
updated 13 August 2014 - added Radio Derby interview
updated July 2022 -added radio interviewers comments
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Radio Derby interview at Assembley Rooms
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Mick Jones & Kosmo Vinyl of The Clash, interviewed back stage at Derby Assembly Rooms by Haddon Smith for Radio Derby youth programme Barbed Wireless, hosted by Terry Christian. Summer 1982.
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Hi Graham, Thanks for including my radio interview ref the clash at derby assembly rooms july 1982 on your site , i am very flattered.
I was approached to tell my little story for a book entitled “a good place under the lighting - an oral history of the clash“. It never saw the light of day, but if you are interested here it is and may answer why the set was somewhat shorter than other nights on the tour.
Kind regards, Haddon
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Sound quality, source
The only recording in circulation is from an audience source which is complete but unfortunately an analogue copy probably more off the master. One channel is better than the other; evidence of dirty or worn heads and the sound is flat with almost no top end. Bass is quite good, drums lifeless, vocals OK and there is some distortion but from the copying not the source recording. An upgrade to the master would reveal a very decent audience recording. As it is though it’s an OK listenable sound but there are much better recordings and performances from this tour.
Rearranged setlist
After the two nights in Newcastle the tour continued to Bradford’s St George’s Hall, on the 17th where The Clash’s “walk up” was evident. Tickets were readily available at the box office on the night, the venue like many on the tour was not sold out, and the touts disappointed! However by the time The Clash hit the stage that night the front of stage in the unseated stalls was packed and enthusiastic but there was room at the back for more.
The Clash’s UK fans were still turning out in sufficient numbers to make the tour a success but the contrast for the band between this tour and the buzz of the sold out US tours must have been stark. The Clash played and went down well (with the exception of Joe’s dodgy Davey Crockett hat!) but it was a routine show contrasting with the exceptional shows earlier (and later) at Brixton that this writer also saw.
The next night the band played Birmingham’s Bingley Hall (see link to Phil William’s excellent live photos) and then rolled into Derby’s Assembly Rooms on the 19th. The Alternative Derby website posted a live recording credited to the previous 9th June 1980 Clash gig at the Assembly Rooms but unfortunately it is the same recording in circulation of the 1982 gig.
As the recording is an analogue copy probably more of the master and the performances are OK if unexceptional, this is not an essential Clash bootleg.
What makes it exceptional ironically is what is missing and the unusual encores. The Clash play 22 songs but are on stage for less than an hour and a quarter and omits the staples of Armagideon Time, Bankrobber and Straight To Hell. The main set does not end with Clampdown but they start the first encore with it and the second encore begins with Train in Vain! Was a band member ill or was there something good on TV that night! By Leicester the next night things were back to normal, anyone know why the Derby faithful were short changed?
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The still existing Assembly Rooms was opened in 1977 and for music gigs accommodates 1400 with no seating on the ground floor, with a further 600 seated upstairs.
"Can you hear me, are you sure?"
As the Morricone intro fades Joe says “Good evening and welcome to you. Can you hear me, are you sure? OK this is Mick Jones” After London Calling the band rattle through Janie Jones and Know Your Rights and in fact through most of the gig with hardly a pause or introduction from Joe. White Man in Hammersmith Palais is again strong with an extended instrumental ending but no Strummer adlibs.
Joe and Mick’s vocal interplay on Magnificent Seven is notable but there’s no adlibs or musical variation to make it particularly memorable. “Mick’s going to sing Stay Free” is one of Joe’s few intros. Although the performances don’t lack effort the band seem to be largely going through the motions, there’s no edge, the grind of all the touring since May catching up with them.
There’s an edit at start of The Call Up which ends again with a repeated “Hup 2-3-4 “ which the audience repeat and continue after the band have stopped. Brand New Cadillac stands out as fast and tight and the set concludes not with Clampdown but with I Fought The Law.
The recording continues through to the short encores then Mick plays a rotor blades riff and counts in Clampdown, which strangely starts the encores tonight, but there’s no inspiration or adlibs an unexceptional performance. It’s then straight into a swift Should I Stay and Safe European Home and then the band leave the stage again. The recording again continues through to the even shorter second encore of curiously Train in Vain before the usual final song of Garageland. Not long after the band exit the stage to cries for more the PA music comes on and the houselights went up.
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"I am here to meet Kosmo Vinyl and interview The Clash!".
Haddon's backstage radio interview
To BMC. Here's my original ramble on Derby 1982. Sure to get chopped quite a bit before it appears in " A Good Place Under The Lighting"
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In 1982 I was a huge fan of The Clash and could not believe I was actually going to see them in action at my local venue Derby Assembly Rooms in July of that year.
Famous for its coverage of snooker it did also double up as a rock venue and most of the major touring bands performed there during the early eighties.
Its hard to imagaine now how different the world was in 1982,pre-internet and moblie phones were rare and normally built into an expensive brand of car.
In order to learn of a tour or see a picture of my heroes I would have to hunt out music magazines and buy anything that they appeared in.
Along way away from todays Google search,website,images,music download,tickets on line etc
I had a huge collection of Clash clippings on my bedroom wall mapping their most recent movements and concert photographs.
I had spent months of my life studying Pennie Smiths book " The Clash Before & After " and knew every quote relating to every photo.The pictures were magnificent and the landscape of their American tour seemed like a concept from Mars.Even her coverage of UK tours suggested The Clash were orbiting a different planet to me .
I had just turned 17 and left school for Technical College so I was just finding my way in life with new friends and places to go.
My confidence was growing and I decided one day that I was not satisfied with just seeing The Clash in concert I had to meet them too.
I decided on a plan to achieve this goal : I would get a job with local radio and blagg a spot interviewing them.
It sounded simple enough and quite plausable.Through one of my new found friends I got involved with a local group who were trying to put a Fanzine together and this lead to a meeting with local Radio Derby.
Earlier in the year TV presenter Gus Mac Donald had a tv show called " Devils Advocate " which debated various issues with 100 unemployed youth from Manchester.
Amongst them was a very bright and vocal lad called Terry Christian ( later of " The Word " fame ) who commanded a good proportion of broadcast time due to his strong opinions and intelligent debating skills.
Someone at the BBC must have spotted him and decided he was just what Radio Derby needed to head up its new youth prgramme " Barbed Wireless ".
I met Terry and his station manager at one of the Fanzine meetings and convinced them I was the perfect roaming reporter they needed as a volunteer for their programme.
After months of hanging around and being seen at the radio station The Clash`s June date in Derby was getting closer and closer.Luckily Terry didnt like them as he was a subscriber to the " Sell Out " theory that the punk rock police had of them at that time.He was therefore not remotely interested in speaking to them and so I was in and the interview was mine.
If memory serves me correctly the original plan was for The Clash to visit the studio before they played,I would interview them live on air and then follow on to the evenings concert.
Brilliant how very rock and roll,I had arrived.
Radio One`s Kid Jensen had also become a big Clash fan and had got Joe,Mick & PR guy Kosmo Vinyl on his evening show several times.I had recorded his interviews and tried to imagine what it would be like to be doing what Kid Jensen had done.Sat opposite my heroes,questions at the ready.
The original Combat Rock tour had been cancelled due to Joe Strummers " disappearnce " and led to fears amongst simple folk like me that maybe our day of seeingThe Clash in action had gone and we had missed it.
One Sunday afternoon Kid Jensen had a special programme with Mick ,Paul and Kosmo in the studio to discuss Joes disappearnce and console dissapointed fans who had bought tickets for cancelled shows.
This all lead to a feeling of urgency now Joe was back,but how long would it last as original drummer Topper had been sacked on his return.There was no time to waste.
My big day finally arrived,I got to Radio Derby for lunchtime as arranged.Checked my long list of questions was in order and met with the studio manager to arrange / confirm what time " they " would be arriving and what the procedure was for meeting , greeting etc
I was knocked back by what he said.Having waited up until 1am to talk to their road manager to make arrangements for the interview he was eventually put onto Kosmo who was alledged to say " If you think a band as big as The Clash is coming down to your studio you must be out of your tiny minds ".
To this day I am not sure if he really said it or whether it was a way of Radio Derby preparing me for my first rock interview and curing me of being a potential sycophant .
On an earlier encounter Terry briefed me not to be soft when I met my heroes as " All they are , are blokes that smoke dope,play guitar and got lucky " .Interesting view on celebrity culture.
Oh dear I thought its all off after getting so close.Bugger.
However The Clash were still prepared to be interviewed but I was to go backstage at The Assembley rooms to do it after their soundcheck.
Brilliant thats even more rock & roll its all back on !
I had also planned for a friend to take some photos of the event,supposedly for the new fanzine we were working on , but really it was so I got a Pennie Smith style collection of black & white photos of The Clash and ME.
We both wandered down to the venue late afternoon armed with our BBC reel to reel tape recorder and the name Kosmo on our minds as our point of contact.I had also been briefed that if we got into any scrapes with any punk rock types we must at all costs get the tape machine back to Radio Derby !
On arrival we got talking to some of The Clash die hards fans who were following them on most dates of the tour.The previous night was at Birmingham,a gig I had bought a ticket for on the cancelled tour but was still valid.Having failed my driving test and the train drivers being on strike I hadnt got to the gig.
I was gutted to hear that local lads " The Beat " had played as support act and that " Mikey Dread " had joined them on stage.Damn I was supposed to be there.
I knocked on the stage door took a deep breath and announced to the combat fatigue wearing roadies that " I am Haddon Smith and I am here to meet Kosmo Vinyl and interview The Clash ".It very much like a " I`m Sparcatus " moment.
I have made bigger first impressions.
The chief roadie grunted and stared at the two of us , for what seemed hours.Oh my are we really that uncool ? Eventually he smiled one of those knowing smiles and said " You had better come in then ".
Blimey I thought,this is it,we are on , I am finally going to meet my heroes, we are backstage at a rock concert surrounded by roadies guitars amps etc.
We were then passed over to the road manger who took us both around the maze of passages and corridors.A door opened and a big black guy that I recognised as Ray Jordan their security man was shuffling a rather dishevelled man wearing a brown leather jacket out of the room.
He propped him up against the wall whilst talking to a roadie.The dishevelled man had his mohawk head drooped and kept falling forward as if falling asleep whilst standing up.
"Who`s that I exclaimed ? "
" Joe Strummer "
What ? had I really just walked passed by hero of heroes and not recognised him ? Unthinkable.
I later learned that he had fallen asleep with the air conditioning on and it made him lose his voice and he had woken up freezing cold hence his dishevelled appearnce.
Another door opened and in the time it took for its security mechanism to close it I could see Paul Simonon`s skeletal face pulling on a cigarette,dressed in a US combat jacket,dog tags etc he looked up and then was gone as the door closed.He looked exactly as he had in all those those photos I had of him.James Dean cool,but this wasnt a photo shoot,this was just him puffing on a cigarette not knowing anyone was looking.
We continued following our man until we got to a section by the stage.
I was surprised to see a barrier across the front of the stage .It was normal for the audience to be pressed up agianst the stage at the feet of the performers.A barrier was totally new to me,now its probably a health & safety essential.
" whats that for ? " I asked.
" so they have to spit a little further to reach the band " came the reply.Lovely I thought.
We were told to wait while he found Kosmo.
And then he appeared,right infront of us dressed just as he had apeared in the NME.Vietnam army gear and mohawk haircut.
" Ello I`m Kosmo " He barked in his squeaky cockney accent.As if he needed an introduction.
" Your going to have to come back later to interview the band,after the show,you cant do it now "
Crazy as it sounds my first thought was ,but what about the reel to reel tape recorder,Ive got to look after it . I didnt want some 6ft skinhead running off with it.Especially as this was my first outing for the BBC !
Commonsense prevailed and the lovely grey haired ladies who managed the cloakroom looked after it for me and gave me a raffle ticket receipt as proof of my valuable deposit.
I managed to worm my way to the front of the stage,prime spot pressed against the barrier and directly infront of the centre mic stand.
Local band " The Catwax Axe Co " were first up followed by a cockney comedian,both of which had to dodge more than faireshare of spit or " gob " as it was referred to.
Suddenly I realised the barrier was putting the stage out of range of most of the spitting.Great for the band ,not so good for fans making up the first three rows as we were now in the drop zone of varying amounts of spittle.
Eventually The Clash took to the stage and I was stood directly infront of Joe Strummer who stared straight ahead throughout the show,as if he was focusing on a poster on the far wall of the hall.
I clearly remember the sweat pouring out of him like a garden sprinkler.It would run down his left arm to his elbow and then drip,drip,drip onto his left Doc Marten boot and finally settle into a puddle by his feet.
His Telecaster guitar was battered and all the metal parts covered in rust.Presumably the result of combined sweat & gob from years of nights like these.
I remember focusing on a big globule of gob on his fretboard.It remained for sometime until eventually he had to form a chord over it and press his fingers into it.Awful.I dont know how they put up with years of such vile conditions.
The sound was awful and badly mixed but it didnt seem to matter.If I wanted hi-fidelity I had the records at home to listen to, it was the live experience I was after and I got it right between the eyes.It was like being hit by a truck.
As soon as they were off it was a mad dash to get to the cloakroom ahead of the herd,grab the reel to reel and meet up with Kosmo and onto my heroes.By which point I didnt really care if it happened or not,I had finally seen The Clash up close and I was buzzing.
We went back stage and were ushered into a room with Ray Jordan and told to wait.
Kosmo greeted us with a friendly " Ello boys,you cant speak to Joe,hes lost his voice I will get one of the others for ya " and signalled to Ray to go and get someone.Damn I`m not going to meet him after all this.
We chatted to Kosmo who was very friendly and down to earth and he didnt seem quite the character to tell us we were too small to bother with as per his quote or possibly misquote.
The door swung open and in walked Mick Jones,grinning like a Cheshire cat " allright boys ? " he said and sat down.I felt under immense pressure to blab how great I thought The Clash were,that I was there biggest fan etc etc but I could hear this voice in my head saying "There just guys that smoke dope,play guitar and got lucky ",I had to go in hard with my questioning to show to Radio Derby that I wasnt a dopey fan and hopefully they would give me other interviews.
Mick although very friendly was in full ROCK STAR mode and quite at odds to what I believed The Clash were all about.
So I did my best at toughening up and after a few questions Mick turned to Kosmo and said " What is this questions or whingeing ? " I had asked why they didnt come to the radio station as promised.Ooops maybe I had pushed a little too hard but feeling on the ropes I came back with a killer reply " But you go to Radio One ".
After that,the ice was broken and we all got on fine.Question after question,I had written hundreds of them down.Ray Jordan would enter the room because fans wanted to meet Mick,Kosmo would wave him back out again and we would continue.
I looked at the reel to reel because it was making a funny noise.Mick looked too.The tape had run out and was making a swishing noise.Oh Lord when did that happen ? How much of this interview have we actually recorderd and more importantly how do I change the tape ?
I tried several times to get the new reel started and fluffed it every time.I was very nervous and beginning to panic.Mick calmly asked " Would you like me to do it for you ? "
Wow a full blown rock legend is now changing tapes for me,just how cool is that ? !
And so we continued with more questions & answers.Mick would take a break to meet some fans and we would continue with Kosmo . Then Mick would return with my first Clash songbook ( I was learning to play guitar so the first Clash songs seemed an ideal place to start )signed by the rest of them and we would talk until the second tape ran out.
We left as the roadies packed the last of the gear away and the hangers on were hanging on,but we were done.My first job for local radio hadnt been a disaster,their precious reel to reel tape machine was safe and sound and touched by a rock legend ,we had met some of The Clash but not the main man Joe Strummer,but I had been front row of a Clash gig .Not a bad nights work.
Radio Derby were happy with my interview and let me do some more.
About a year later Mick Jones was sacked from The Clash for having too many Rock Star type demands and The Clash fan base were divided between Mick & Joes supporters.I felt I could understand some of why he had to go and
I felt naturally aligned to the Strummer camp.
On reflection and maturity I think this was a little unfair of me.Mick was a young man at the top of his game in the best band Britain had ever produced.Maybe he should be forgiven for a little ego wandering.But at the time it seemed a little contradictary to The Clash`s anti-rock-star status.
The Christmas 1983 edition of the NME had a section in its back pages about events for 1984.The bit that bounced off the page to me was " The Clash Return,Five Strong ".The promise of a back to basics Clash with two new guitar slingers made that Christmas for me.
The New Year brought the " Out Of Control " tour to Leicester De Montfort Hall and they were magnificent I travelled down to Brixton to see them too.They were wild shows and the sound was fantastic.I never got to meet them but the memory of their stage presence has stayed with me forever.
I have since read Vince Whites book " Out Of Control The Last Days Of The Clash " which covers the guitarist time with the band.A must read for any Clash fan.My heroes Joe and Paul do not come out of it well and it probably serves well as a cure for any dopey fan.
Vince and I have exchanged emails and he seems a fine fellow so I have no reason to doubt his account of events.
I did have a few post Clash Joe Strummer encounters but maybe those stories are for another book.
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