Out of Control Tour '84
updated 8 Feb 2008
updated 5 Jan 2010 - added ticket
updated 2 Sept 2016 with better audio information
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Sound 3 - 84min - ? - 23 tracks
Dictator
Sound quality
This recording came from an old private collection and better copies may circulate, though it has an above average sound. It has a slightly distant sound and has some tape wear from over copying, and slight distortion as well.
The guitars and drums are easliy heard as well as the vocals. The only problem is some distortion throughout the sound, besides some echo/distance of the recorder. Again perfectly listenable but not the best. Ammunition is cut out on this as well...
Sound 3 - 83min - MASTER - 23 tracks
Dictator
FROM THE BLUESDEVIL TAPE ARCHIVES
Length: 87 minutes
Source: Audience recording
Quality: Fair (on a scale from 1 to 5, maybe a 2 or 2.5)
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Includes full version of "ammunition", which seems to be lacking in currently circulating copies.It's apparent that song was at a tape flip and was either tacked on at the end of side 1 cassette dubs or maybe just left off others? **Only fair sound due to some echo, distortion and a few drop outs.** ALso there was some high end noise that I tried to quell with Sound Forge's EQ.
I received this in a trade with a fellow tape trader at the time of the show in the same city. He always had recent recordings of shows from St. Paul, but never stated taping them. He was actually a big WHO vinyl boot collector who also dug the Clash, like myself. Just for fun I'm torrenting rips from my 25 year old old cassette archives... hope someone likes this stuff.
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St Paul, Civic Centre
The St. Paul Civic Center was an indoor arena located in downtown Saint Paul, Minnesota. The arena opened on January 1, 1973, and had a seating capacity of approximately 16,000 for hockey events. The arena could be expanded up to 17,800 for concerts and other non-sporting events. The Civic Center was the home rink to both versions of the WHA Minnesota Fighting Saints from 1973 to 1977. It also hosted a variety of concerts, including performances by The Clash and Prince 1, 9, 14.
The St. Paul Civic Center was closed and demolished in May 1998. The Xcel Energy Center was built on the former site of the arena 1, 13. The Civic Center was part of the RiverCentre complex in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and was renamed and merged into the newly named RiverCentre in the mid-1990s 13.
The St. Paul Civic Center was known for hosting a variety of events, including concerts, hockey games, and wrestling matches. For instance, The Clash, an English rock band, performed at the St. Paul Civic Center on May 15, 1984 2, 10. The band's performance at the Civic Center was part of their tour in the United States 6. The arena also hosted wrestling events, as indicated by the Pro Wrestling Wiki 13.
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The Clash crashing under weight of egoism
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Thu May 17 1984
The Clash rocked hard but still rolls
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Fri May 11 1984
Clash returns but performance falls short
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Thu May 17 1984
Letters. John Breams review of the Clash concert was the worst hatchet job he's done
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International Clash Day: Remember when the Clash played St. Paul?
Remember when the Clash played St. Paul? by Lydia Moran
Perhaps every day should be International Clash Day, but today in particular marks a special installment in KEXP's annual celebration of "the only band that matters." 2019 is the 40th anniversary of the band's seminal release London Calling, and, as the Seattle station puts it, "all across the globe, we’re celebrating music as a tool for social consciousness, a band that made it sound so damn good, and an iconic record that still changes lives 40 years later."
The Clash, St Paul '79
For our part, let's look back at when these seminal punk rockers played it big in the Twin Cities. On Sept. 12, 1979 the quartet stepped on stage for the first time at the St. Paul Civic Center, located where the Xcel Energy Center now stands. The crowd, "just a few thousand," according to Star Tribune critic John Kerans, danced ceaselessly throughout the 70-minute set. Though, funnily enough, it seems both Kerans and Jon Bream, who was then reporting for the Minneapolis Star, significantly favored both openers (the Undertones and David Johansen) over the headliner.
The performance, according to Bream, "was hardly cathartic or transcendental," making a point of distinguishing himself from coastal critics who drooled over the band at the time. After the group's opening track, "I'm So Bored in the U.S.A.," front man Joe Strummer quipped that the Midwest is a wasteland and asked that the fans "tell us limeys" where to go. According to Bream, punk rock had died earlier in the year with Sid Vicious of the "defunct" Sex Pistols.
Sharing photos from that show, local record retailer John Kass remembers meeting the Clash "in the parking lot of Sun Ray Shopping Center on the east side of St Paul. They had stopped to buy liquor and groceries on their way to Chicago, and I just happened to be next door applying for a job at J.C. Penny."
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The Clash, St Paul '82
While the Clash sparked a movement in the UK, they didn't make it big in the US until 1982 when "Combat Rock" sold more than 500,000 copies. The Clash returned to the Civic Center that very year to 8,300 attendees (including Bob Dylan) and more lukewarm (at best) reviews in the local news — this time followed by a defiant reader rebuttal published a couple days later. "The Clash's stage performance was outstanding," the reader wrote," Maybe your reviewer could have asked a few fans whether they enjoyed the concert."
One fan who did was The Current's Bill DeVille. "It was fantastic," he remembers. "It blew my mind. They were my favorite band at the time, by far. Went to Ragstock to get some new duds for the show. Went with all my buddies. We drove to St. Paul...it was a big night.
DeVille remembers a crowd that was "very receptive, very enthusiastic. It was electric." He continues:
I still remember getting there, in line really early. It was festival seating, and I remember thinking back to that concert that happened a few years earlier by the Who where people died. I thought when they opened the door the same sort of thing was going to happen, because people bum-rushed as soon as they opened the doors.
The local band Shangoya, who were kind of a reggae/ska band around here, took the stage, and once they started playing there was a lot of pushing and shoving going on. This friend of mine ended up falling down, and he literally had to grab the tails of my shirt to pull himself back up again. Some people were actually jumping on stage. It was just insane
Then, once the show started, I forgot about all of the nightmares. I had lost both of my shoes; I was barefoot. It was just insane. It was a big night, and one that I'll certainly never forget. As far as concerts, it's probably my strongest memory of a show that I have.
The Clash, St Paul '84
In May 1984, struggling to regain momentum in the wake of an onstage scuffle at the US Festival and the firing of guitarist Mick Jones, the Clash played their last show in St. Paul to a little over half the size of the audience at the band's '82 show. Bream wrote, "the teenage guys had come in their combat fatigues and the gals in their Flashdance fashions to vent some energy and witness (for the first time for many of them) a legendary name in rock history. However," he continues, "many of these young concert-goers found a legend that had lost its luster."
Just two years later the band dissolved, ahead of their time to the end. "They're not Top 10 material," a fan told the Star Tribune in 1979, "They're loud, fast, and simple. They're not a cerebral experience."
Lydia Moran is a music and arts writer in Minneapolis.
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12 Joe Strummer St. Paul Civic Center Photos & High Res Pictures
The Clash perform at the St. Paul Civic Center in St. Paul, Minnesota on May 15, 1984. (Photo by Jim Steinfeldt/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
Joe Strummer, lead singer for the Clash, at a May 1984 concert at St. Paul Civic Center.(Photo By DAVID BREWSTER/Star Tribune via Getty Images)
ST. PAUL, MN - MAY 15: The Clash (Joe Strummer) performs at the St. Paul Civic Center in St. Paul, Minnesota on May 15, 1984. (Photo by Jim Steinfeldt/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
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