Out of Control Tour '84

updated 2 Sept 2016

Audio 1 -
Sound 3.5 - 52min - low but compression - 15 tracks
Clearly missing part 3. Great sound but regresses as it goes on.

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saw the Clash at the Orlando Jai-Alai, March 30, 1984. The stage was done up in camouflage netting with some sort of tin foil strung through it. There were video monitors sitting among the amps which ran looping clips from 1920s or 1930s B/W movies. The opener was a lame rockabilly three piece group.

After they finished, an old English man came out on stage and shouted into the mic, "Ladies and gentleman, it's the show stopping, pill popping, trouser dropping CALASH". The place gradually filled with pot smoke and the volume increased steadily throughout the show. It was pretty hilarious overall. It took quite a long time to remember where the car was parked when we got outside.

David

´the clash played the sunrise musical theater in march of 1984. it was the "out of control tour" without Jones, Headon or Chimes, so we called them "we are not the clash" because we were young a-holes. i'm happy that the lighting was fairly bright--there was a lot of jostling in the crowd especially during the older tunes. if it had been dark or there had been a lot of the dreaded red lights, more of these would have been blurry.

I remember having seats in the 4th row and running up to the front when everyone "made their move" as was the habit there in those days. Some lady was mad at this because she had paid like three times as much for front row tix. (It was a dinner theater so you got better seats if you bought their food.)
She took it out on me. I guess because I was the only punker smaller than she was, I was the least menacing. She was maybe 30 at the time, but seemed older than dirt and very uncool--like she was playing hooky from a boring office job. I remember she was wearing a Clash shirt from the previous tour and thinking "geez, at least you've gotten to see them somewhere. how 'bout letting us poor schmucks stuck in Florida have a crack." (This was the first and only appearance of the Clash in South Florida as far as I could remember.) Anyway, she was so bitchy that she reported me to a security guard for taking these pictures, and when he did nothing to stop me, she moved up and shoved her hand in front of my lens. I tried to grab it a couple of times, and I finally had to tell her that I was going to crack her arm on the stage if I managed to get it the next time. Fair warning. Thankfully, she didn't test me and we have these nice pictures.

It has me thinking though. This was such a different era. For some reason, they didn't like you taking pictures of rock bands back then and you often couldn't take cameras into shows. They thought you were going to make money off them or not spend money on the pictures they were selling, I guess. How pointlessly stupid.

And I remember on a couple of occasions having the film taken. OMG, that 16 year old girl is taking pictures---she's probably the head of an Italian poster printing syndicate and will be making tons of money off these pictures she's taking with that beat up old camera. And I remember that people were quick to try to stop you as if it was their duty to protect these people from having a geeky 16 year old girl preserve memories of her existence on this earth. Lame.

PJ59 - User
My best friend and I went to this concert. We were on vacation. We ended up leaving with the Clash. There was one group member that didn't come. It also seemed like there was tension w/ that one band mate. We drove around for hours. Paul wanted to go to the "Bloody Bucket." We didn't know what he meant. Coincidentally, (LOL) we drove by a KFC. Paul got all excited. That's what he was referring too. The KFC bucket. Too bad it was closed. We then went & just hung out w/ them. There was a black guy with them. I "think" Paul said that man was a security guard. They were all such gentlemen. They never tried anything. We actually left the Jai Alai Fronton Hall with them. There were photogs everywhere clicking away. Gosh, I wish I could see some of those photos. I know they're out there somewhere. My son would get a kick out of it.

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by coffeepotman » 15 Aug 2020, 5:38pm

My one and only Clash show, I remember Joe was on the radio in the afternoon, it was quite a party atmosphere in the parking lot. The show was interesting, I was really missing having Mick up there. Thing I remember most was they had a bank of televisions on stage.

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London Calling
Safe European Home
Are You ready for War?
Rock the Casbah
This is England
Radio Clash
Three Card Trick
Guns of Brixton
Spanish Bombs
Clampdown
Sex Mad War
Police & Thieves
Janie Jones
Jimmy Jazz
I Fought the Law
... cuts .. White Man in Hamm Palais

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A collection of interviews, features, articles and tour information from April to August 1984.

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Clash is coming to Orlando,
but who will it be?

Tampa Bay Times - Tue Mar 20 1984

Clash begins to pick the pieces
Tampa Bay Times - Fri Mar 30 1984

Clash's best message is music
Tampa Bay Times - Mon Apr 2 1984
By BOB ANDELIVIAN
St. Petersburg fimnnee Correspondent

The Clash and the Larry Joe Miller Band, March 30 at Orlando Jai-Alai.

From the left, they fight for rights
Florida Today - Thu Apr 5 1984

The Clash is Joe Strummer's group now, as was demonstrated in the re-vamped Clash's concert in Orlando. ... 2 pages

We Are The Clash: Reagan, Thatcher, and the Last Stand of a Band That Mattered
By Mark Andersen, Ralph Heibutzki

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The Clash - Toronto Bus Interview April 1984

Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?

This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.

In the second part of the interview, recorded in the beginning of 1984, Strummer sounds melancholy and exhausted. However, with the departure of Mick Jones from The Clash being old news by this point, Lisa Robinson is able to steer the questioning towards what Strummer makes of performing, success, and his music.

Part 1
00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
01:15 Bitterness
01:56 Success vs. personal problems
02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
11:39 Hoping to be possessed
12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
14:55 Pete Howard on drums
15:07 Recording a new album
15:49 The US Festival
16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response

Part 2
00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
01:57 A feeling of homelessness
02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
07:13 The ideal performing situation
07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
10:48 [A false start]
11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
12:11 Musical influences
12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.

Joe Strummer Interview Ltd Edition picture disk

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