Out of Control Tour 84

Joe Strummer lost his father two days after the second Milan date (28th).

Audio 1 - Boot cassette, major upgrade
Sound 3 - 1hr 23mins - 27 tracks

Are You Ready For War?

Another nice and a much improved upgrade. A probable low/first generation accompanied with bootleggers photocopied artwork it has a reasonably good sound. (Back Stage passes can also be found on the reverse of the FHTE cover.)

The tape has some minor problems and is a touch thin for the first few songs. These differences were far more pronounced on the actual boot tape.

Overall the vocals, lead guitar,drums are clear but bass is thin and generally the range is thin, but still an enjoyable listen with a pretty nice width of sound with reasonably good clarity, only the high decibels produce some slight over amplification.

The sound is up front and near with not too much echo. The different drums can just be made out, the vocals come across really strong as does the guitars. Even the bass is clear further in, particularly when the decibels are low. Link to If Music Could Talk

TV Interviews

The Clash - Italy 1984 interview
Mister Fantasy - Italian TV - RaiUno -
Broadcast 22 March

Joe Strummer of The Clash interviewed backstage pre show Milan Italy 1984. Taken from "Mister Fantasy and below being interviewed pre show Milan Italy February 1984. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018

Clash - 1984 Milan Italy News Show interview

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Notable for the only post 83/Mick Jimmy Jazz which is by far the most jamming version the Clash played. The band are as usual fired up and Joe attempts a few words of Italian! There are edits on Guns of Brixton, The Dictator (only the last minute survives) and the opening intro on Police and Thieves with a tape turnover. Janie Jones is replayed after an interruption. The set list is largely the norm for this tour and there are excellent versions of Ammunition and Three Card Trick.

London Calling has some flaws for the first few seconds and the first two tracks are the thinnest sounding. By the introductions and Are you Ready for War the sound has improved. Ammunition is preceded by Joes growing concern at the political swings to the extreme 'fascist' right (Thatcher - Reagan) and for young people to use their political votes (for the parties of the left). A theme he would reiterioate throughout this tour.

The band run through a usual set of numbers. Joe steps it up for Im so bored for the USA. A remarkable Jimmy Jazz follows, very jammy, hard and short. The show really comes together musically as the band concentrate on enjoying playing as with most 84 shows. Janie Jones is much speeded up as Joe picks up the pace, but it doesnt quite work out first time and Joe stops it and restarts from the beginning, quickly racing into English Civil War. I Fought the Law ends the set.

Armagideon Time opens up the encores followed by a very energetic, if slightly loud and overamplified Tommy Gun. The atmosphere is really charged as the band launch into Garageland, Joe ad libs some extra angry lyrics towards the end, and carries on into a rousing Brand New cadilac and caree Opportunities combo. The band is urged anto a very tame and quiet Londons Burning.

Nick Sheppard takes lead vocals as per usual on Micks 'Should I Stay or Should I Go" and tries to shout the lyrics in a effort to deliver a fast upbeat aggressive version. the band bows out with a similar asault on White Riot.

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THE CLASH
Palazzo dello Sport - Milan
28/02/1984

Fans acount of the night. Includes lots of comments underneath

[translated]

... as soon as I set foot in the cauldron (I had arrived early enough), the first thing I met was a flying chair which at times took me in full.

By the way, I was with my girlfriend at the time who got scared to death and made me horrible bangs that lasted at least until the end of the concert (and the relationship that ended shortly after). .... in full

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London Calling
Safe European Home
Are you Ready for War
Rock de Casbah
Ammunition
Radio Clash
Guns of Brixton (edit 2.50)
Dictator (edit 1.08)
Clampdown
White man
Im so Bored with the USA
Jimmy Jazz
Sex Mad War
Police and Thieves
Three card trick
Janie Jones
English Civil War
I fought the Law
Armagideon Time
Tommy Gun
Complete Control
Brand New Cadilac
Career Opportunities
Londons Burning
Complete Control
Should I Stay or Should I Go
White Riot

There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.

from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)

from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
... both have lists of people who say they went

& from the newer Concert Database

Also useful: Ultimate Music datbase, All Music, Clash books at DISCOGS

Any articles, interviews, reviews, posters, tour dates from The Out of Control '84 tour around the UK and Europe.

If you know of any articles or references for this particular gig, anything that is missing, please do let us know.

L'Unita 21 February 1984
No English translation from L'Unita

Rock rebel in Milan with the Clash

La Stampa - 26 February 1984

Issue 48 page 23

La Stampa 29 February 1984

English translation go to La Stampa archives

La Stampa 15 March 1984

La Stampa - 5th March 1984

La Stampa original articles can be found here

Google's English translations from the scans can be found here

Lengthy fans blog with comments

The support band Not Moving give there taken on supporting The Clash in Milan for two nights.

Open for the Clash in Milan: the word from the support Not Moving

On February 28, 1984 (leap year, for the record) Joe Strummer with what remains of the Clash makes a stop in Italy. It is not the first time in our country for the band, which has already held some concerts in 1980 and 1981 for Italian fans.
That Milanese date sees the presence of a guest group to open the evening: Not Moving, an emerging band that had already attracted the attention of many professionals and enthusiasts. Their sound is peculiar, it hangs up to the mood of bands like Cramps and Gun Club, with many references to punk, but also to the sound of Australian rock and to more roots-blues atmospheres. PDF

More on Not Moving and the Palasport gigs...

Check Vince White Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash

We Are The Clash: Reagan, Thatcher, and the Last Stand of a Band That Mattered
By Mark Andersen, Ralph Heibutzki

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Joe Strummer Interview Radio Stockholm,
1 January1984

Joe Strummer Interview Ltd Edition picture disk

Interview with Joe Strummer and The Clash in Norway in 1984.

The Clash - Italy 1984 interview
Mister Fantasy - Italian TV - RaiUno
Broadcast 22 March

Joe Strummer of The Clash interviewed backstage pre show Milan Italy 1984. Taken from "Mister Fantasy. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018

Clash - 1984 Milan Italy News Show interview

Joe Strummer and The Clash interviewed pre show Milan Italy February 1984. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018

The Clash - "Jt. 13th" Interview (France) '84
Made from a second generation VHS-tape.

A longer version (below) is on Youtube but it is inaccesssible from the UK?

Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?

This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.

In the second part of the interview, recorded in the beginning of 1984, Strummer sounds melancholy and exhausted. However, with the departure of Mick Jones from The Clash being old news by this point, Lisa Robinson is able to steer the questioning towards what Strummer makes of performing, success, and his music.

Part 1
00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
01:15 Bitterness
01:56 Success vs. personal problems
02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
11:39 Hoping to be possessed
12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
14:55 Pete Howard on drums
15:07 Recording a new album
15:49 The US Festival
16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response

Part 2
00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
01:57 A feeling of homelessness
02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
07:13 The ideal performing situation
07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
10:48 [A false start]
11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
12:11 Musical influences
12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.

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