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ah [Music] [Applause] [Music] hello [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] hi welcome back to a brand new hot off the press london weekend show and from that bit of film we just flashed at you i expect to be able to guess what we're taking a look at this week since our last show in the summer punk rock's really taken off both in london and in new york and although anyone thinks punk is that great a name for it it seems to have stuck punk magazine comes out in new york and sniffing glue is the punk paper here<
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despite its ill-advised title so it has its own magazines its own bands its own devoted fans and of course its own style of dress even the conventional music papers like melody maker and nme have written columns about the latest cult and it's just popping up in the national press but what's punk all about we went to a gig by the sex pistols just off leicester square to see what a punk rock evening was like [Music] [Applause] [Music] hey [Music] i will [Music] this is [Applause] [Music] i<
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[Music] is [Music] [Music] well the first thing you notice is that punk rock fans look as devastating as their music sounds torn clothes are held together with safety pins there's lots of black leather and bizarre hair and the whole idea is to shock outsiders in that sense but it isn't hurting people isn't really hurting people it's just some of the bloody fools that come along and see it react against i fell asleep four rows from the front you don't yawn you don't have to play<
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five pounds and you're not one of ten thousand people where's your dress made from [Music] you know you feel one of the crowds what'd you what do i do typing you're not a mouse you know like michael field fans you know it's a different ballgame now it's all over that it's all over well people have got worked up over plenty of musicians from elvis presley wiggling his pelvis in the 50s to the rolling stones 10 years later so what are the sex pistols got that provokes the same reaction you would have thought<
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that people couldn't be upset by much in 1976. let's take a look at the path of pop music over the last 15 years and try to discover why punk rock has found so many fans [Music] in the days of the beach boom in the early 60s there was a feeling of great involvement with a new sort of music these beetle fans filmed in the liverpool cavern club when the group was still unknown really were close to their idols it didn't take much equipment to start your own band or much in the way of skill<
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the idols of the day were reasonably easy to see in a small club and at a price which their fans could afford [Music] at the time many middle-aged people found bangs like the stones the pretty things and so on ugly and threatening this helped the fans identify even more strongly with their music and some groups like the who came from the same background and were singing about the same world their audience lived in and understood [Music] but as time passed and the bands grew wealthier they became more remote than<
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their audience for many this film is the closest they will get to a lead vessel in concert admission prices have gone up and up and the music has become complicated and less accessible to would-be [Music] musicians make you reaction to this increasing remoteness of musicians from their fans pub rock circuits developed in the 70s where anyone could buy a drink and see a band and recently a return to basic gutsy rock and roll has taken dr feelgood out of the pubs and up to the top of the album charts<
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[Music] but the feel goods are probably the exception because by and large pub rock bands have never succeeded outside their pubs i asked the sex pistols why they thought pub rock had failed to catch on their music that was just based around old standards like bees make onion bands like that they just played them pretty obviously everybody's been playing for like 15 years there's a couple of things like killings when you're good they're all mostly country and western rhythm and blues<
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and what the hell good juice is that man what was needed was a style of music that was as easy to play as pub rock but rejected the past and had a new identity of its own what musicians should you write i mean do you think it's a good singer i don't i don't have any heroes and they're all useless but there's no bands around is there none none are accessible well before you unless you pay a fiver to see them and then you can't see them and what sort of people came to see in the beginning<
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well no one knew this at the beginning it was just whoever was there when we turned up because we used to turn up with our equipment and just like crash in and do the gigs nobody knew he was playing until we got there we didn't even know actually well you reckon that was the only way to get a gig was just turn up first yeah i mean we can get geeks [ __ ] [ __ ] [Music] no i'm [Music] when you stood up and started singing the first time what happened i mean oh jon god it was wonderful no cold people<
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loved me they threw flowers well look i saw you the sixth time and people were quite shell-shocked why didn't you know yourself don't you what's up i don't know just bald people pulled out their brains with hippies what's this thing you've got against zippers they're complacent you just attacking chocolate parks and the sort of bands that are on there what do you think they're relevant to the kids 16 and 17. of course they're not relevant to their mums and dads but<
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that's about all what batman's like rod stewart what about mums and dads he's all round and they all ran at the time things really started to move for the sex pistols when they were spotted by promoter ron watts who gave them a booking at the hundred club in oxford street i saw them at high wickham and it was interesting because they really upset the crowd or most of the crowd and they had some of their followers with them who looked like people i'd never seen before in my life what did<
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they look like oh amazing they had this multi-colored hair and they had clothes on which had been ripped to pieces and put that together with safety pins and it was very bizarre it's beyond anything that i'd seen beyond anything that i hit high wickham before yeah probably since as well what happened when they played down here well the first time they played uh [Music] their audience turned out the broadly a lot with the multiplayer here again and what have you it was good we haven't seen they like it and so he<
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thought well we'll give it a try again and there weren't very many people coming at first you know the first half dozen gigs are very average in support you know any other band would have done as many people but as the actual um followers that did it you know turn the key we've been there for five years or more just waiting for this to happen and now it's happening it looks like it's only a prank like dressing it's disgusting exactly how you want to look and finding clothes that are original<
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not like wearing everything that everyone else wears you know looking just a bit different have you tried to get back to brother yeah i did the hundred club festival susie and the banshees what did you see the lord's prayer via twisting shark knocking on heaven's store and a bit of deutsche and deutsche and uber alley i walk with the other verse all of it it got boring in some parts but it picked up i know what's backing you out sid vicious on drums steve spunker on the base marco on guitar me just doing the vocals<
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are you a singer yeah have you sung before not on stage now did you think that was important [Music] um no you know you can rehearse for two days in the garage and not having to play before and go out and do a gig it was like that before though wasn't it the skipper was like that skipper was very important in british music that's where all the groups came from how can you tell a good punk rock band from a bad one well the audience judged that i think early [Music] well what do you think's produced punk<
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rock why is it sort of kind of sprung up it had to it's the only thing that could happen i mean it was the only thing that didn't come from the industry it came from the kids themselves it had something had to come from the kids you know the industry had run out of ideas that's why i had rock and roll with i was every other year but what is it that the punk rock bands are saying that makes them a part and a reflection of their generation we'll be back with the words the musicians and their audiences and most<
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important more of the music itself after a break [Music] [Music] welcome back punksters in the first half we saw how rock stars have become more and more distant from their audiences some are tax exiles and living broad in california or europe others only appear on stage in vast stadiums where tickets cost plenty and they appear as small dots on the horizon so it's not surprising that fans like the sex pistols who play in clubs that anyone can afford to go to are becoming more and more popular<
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there's also a new feeling that you don't have to be a special sort of person to pick up a guitar or stand in front of a mic and sing in punk rock anyone can have a go punk in england is still growing but it has bands like the buzzcocks from manchester and the suburban studs from birmingham here in london apart from the pistols there are about a dozen or so imitators either established bands cashing in on what they see as a punk craze or other people treading the same route as the pistols from dole q to club dates<
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bands like the damned the vibrators and clash who've been playing for about six months what is there in their apparently negative and destructive lyrics for fans to identify with i went along to the rehearsal rooms in camden to ask class why do you think punk rock started in the first place well because it's like it's got nothing to do with them anymore when like rod stewart gets up there and starts like going on with this string orchestra you know i mean it's not what you feel like so you got to have some music what<
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you feel like otherwise you go balmy don't you i think their attitude's really stink now anyways it's just like there just has to be new groups and then that's what you got the sex pistols say they hate hippies everything they stand for and the hippies what went wrong with music what do you think about that yes right i think that's where the complexities came in you know when people thought oh we better buy our moog synthesizer or we'll get caught out you know like maybe around if you like you know<
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jump into action immediately because you know i suppose you ain't near fault i've had too much dope yeah going on the floor and looking at the ceiling but it's another generation shield yeah one that went wrong what sort of thing do you write about what's going on at the moment like what like what um career opportunities right right yeah tell me about white right what's it about you know what i know a guy like you know that right they had well we was down there me and him and uh we<
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got searched by policemen looking for bricks like and then uh later on we got searched by rasta looking for pound notes in our pocket so no we had those books and bottles [Music] but still but one of the lines in it is everybody does what they're told to yeah it's true i mean do you think what's happened to a lot of young people is that they've been pushed around a lot yeah right i mean it's sort of like all the kids are supposed to sort of like be factory project you know that<
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sort of stuff and like the school's sort of built it's a real depressing school in there and you go there you don't learn nothing all you're like working for is just going to the factory which is around the corner or something like that and uh well most of the mates i know all working in the factory i know a lot of your fans are the doll i mean do they feel the same way yeah actually wouldn't come to my gigs if they weren't on the doll would they be your friends well i mean if there was jobs and they<
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wouldn't be on adult and maybe we'd be seeing about love and kissing or something so the new groups claim they're singing about the situations that they and their fans find themselves in where are they the sex pistols first single is aggressively called anarchy in the uk but what do they mean by anarchy [Music] i thought i was just [Music] hi [Music] what do you mean do you mean you actually want to destroy them or you want to wipe them out you want someone saying come play some pathetic<
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walk up and down do nothing and complain about everything and watch top of the pops and send their boring little letters into melody make a week after week that's what i want to get rid of i actually want to get rid of it though push him out destroy them one way or another not not violent get rid of them but don't you get off on causing fights where you heard that from smoking oh my gosh it's just the same as when it was before when they had the stones and the who and they came along and they thought they<
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were great because they destroyed everything that went before them but now they can't take it because we're destroying everything that's gone before us that's what it is it's not it's not violence it's just excitement causes it most of the time you know when we're playing people get excited and worked up that's because people aren't even used to people standing up and jumping around they're just one of us sit down all the time as soon as anything other than that<
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happens they get really conscious violence yeah if someone stands up there and goes yes he's starting to get him out the usual [Music] [Music] the tales of violence at punk rock gigs may have been exaggerated but they are undoubtedly based on facts and they've led to the situation where some fans expect and even demand trouble ron watts who first introduced punk rock to london now supports a ban on it i asked him if he wasn't going to lose out by banning such a booming fashion yeah that's true um<
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but the club has a long-standing reputation and it and there is a lunatic fringe that follows them that you know that are liable to be violent and we can't have those people [Music] but when the hysteria that always surrounds the new fashion be it clothes or music guys down what's left and is the much publicized violence at punk rock gigs really any worse than at other equivalent events so far the punk scene seems to have avoided the premeditated confrontations of the teddy boys and of the mods and<
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rockers is johnny rotten the new david bowie or will all his tough lyrics and aggression just look dated next year right now the punk musicians can make out that they're just the same as their fans because most of them still are and they can sing about getting rid of the establishment because they're not part of it but what happens if they do make it and get big and successful what would success do to johnny rotten i mean the day johnny rotten goes back on the words he writes in his songs it's<
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the day he dies i know that for a fact so it's a ridiculous question to ask you know they're just very very committed they're in this band because they're committed they formed it's the reason they're the whole founders of the new scene in music because they thought we're bored of what's happening we're going to do something that's why they are the best band in it because they're the originators don't accept the old order get rid of it what do you think about bones like the<
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stones i don't i don't even consider them a band they're more like a business what a business yeah but surely by making a record you're on the way to becoming part of the system not if you don't let yourself but supposing your records are success yeah i mean which there are big charts it will be how are you going to be different from the stones i don't need a rolls royce i don't need a house in the country i don't need to live in the south of france i'm happy as<
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i am and i'm going to carry on please be part of don't live in finley park [Music] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] one [Applause] wow [Music] [Music] hello oh [Music] [Music] nobody else [Music] [Music] [Music] come on [Music] [Music] oh<